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Info-Mac Digest             Fri, 24 Sep 93       Volume 11 : Issue 191

Today's Topics:

      [*] attoClock 1.3
      [*] e-disk 1.2 Demo
      [*] maelstrom-131-updater.hqx
      [*] maelstrom-131.hqx
      [*] Network Software Installer 1.4
      [*] PICTshow20.hqx
      [*] Update! HyperNotebook v1.0b1
      ">" thingies
      14.4k modem from Technology Concepts
      Additional HD Installation
      Adobe Audition
      Airport Security & Disks(A)
      A site where gzip and a compiler are [A]
      Attendance program wanted
      CD-ROM Drive Questions... (R)
      Chinese version of System 7
      Choosing an EtherNet card for Mac Classic and an LC
      Clock speeds
      Computer Underground Digest
      custom colors
      Editing EPS files in FreeHand [Q]
      Eudora vs. LeeMail
      faq
      gcc for Mac? [R]
      GEnie & BinHex
      Ghost Mouse problem
      Help!  My desktop is black & white!
      Help needed - Hard drive problem?
      How to read non-Mac/IBM floppy?
      Internet Intro on Hypercard
      Invalid Index Key (Q)
      LineLink 14.4e Modem!
      Mac distribution (Q)
      MacWorld E-mail (A)
      MPEG and Quicktime Interconversion
      MS Word 4.0x and 040 machines
      need to extract sounds from HyperCard to sys7...
      New developer fee$ [ack!]
      Nissus -> WP 5.1
      No new file postings. Please rescind.
      NSI 1.4 and GeoPort
      Pegasus - A shareware mail-prg. for the Mac?
      PRAM
      Problems downloading from info-mac
      Replacement SE/30 ROMs
      request for info about printers
      Right FPU for LC II (Q)
      Schematics for Mac (A)
      shareware problem under system 7.1
      Shutdown message on Centris
      Start up icon mess
      Start up icon mess(A)
      Start up icon mess (Q)
      Strange happ to my boot partition (Q)
      Sys 7.1 (LCIII freeze) (A)-
      tn3270 2.3d26 "Print Screen..." won't
      Translating the Symbol font from Macs to PC's (Q)
      video disc drivers

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Date: Wed, 22 Sep 93 17:38:42 PDT
From: [e-mail] (Fred Condo)
Subject: [*] attoClock 1.3

attoClock[TM] 1.3
The way-tiny, minuscule, little clock program.

ATTENTION
Please take note of my new Internet address.

What it is
attoClock is a very small application (7566 bytes) for System 7 that displays
a digital clock in a small window. It has intentionally few features. It
displays the hour and minute, respecting the time format you have set in your
control panels. It doesnUt display seconds or the date or ring chimes or
display movies or pictures or animations. Just the time.

The motivation for creating attoClock was that I like having a clock on my
screen, but I donUt want to give up a lot of memory or disk space for the
function. I could use the Alarm Clock desk accessory, but it has a larger
window, and, if placed at the bottom of the screen, must be moved to access
its extra functions. Also, I distrust the extensions and control panels that
put a clock in the menu bar. Even with the best efforts of the authors,
conflicts among complex extensions occur. A small application that obeys
AppleUs programming guidelines is the least obtrusive way to provide a simple
function like this.

To keep attoClock as small as possible, it supports System 7 (including 7.0.1
and 7.1 and presumably future versions) only. It will silently quit if it is
launched under earlier systems. The name is taken from the metric-system
prefix atto-, which means one quintillionth (10-18). ThatUs very small, but
it should not be confused with an attaBoy, which is a small word of praise.

Changes in this version
1.3 Added Unplugged-VCR mode and a specific type and creator for attoClock
and its preferences file. Most of the increased size of the application is
due to the icons, not the addition of Unplugged-VCR mode. The application
uses no more memory than it ever did.

Acknowledgements
* Tim Dierks <[e-mail]> helped with information about the memory
manager.
* Russell E. Owen <[e-mail]> suggested formatting the time
right-justified.
* Sarah Pradt <[e-mail] > suggested bringing the Finder to the front.
* Bob Lougheed <[e-mail]> helped with testing.
* Someone wrote me suggesting adding a specific icon to attoClock, but
somehow that personUs message vanished from my files. If that person will
write again, I will amend this acknowledgement.
* My friend Tony Cuevas suggested Unplugged-VCR mode.

[Archived as /info-mac/app/atto-clock-13.hqx; 40K]

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Date: Wed, 22 Sep 93 22:00:28 -0500
From: "Kevin Sartain" <[e-mail]>
Subject: [*] e-disk 1.2 Demo

Dears Mac Informers,

Here is a working version of the e-disk 1.2 demo.I have included a brief
read-me
file which explains how to get it to work

(Just click OK three times on the start-up screen instead of entering a serial
number. After three failed attempts at entering the serial number, it will
work
as the demo version)

This demo will expand your drive 1.5 times instead of the 2,3, or 4 times
available in the fully registered version. By using it's built in registration
option (register by phone) you can get an authorization number too use it
immediately. You will still need to pay for the full version, but you don't
have
to wait for them to ship it to you.

Try it out on a drive, you will need to back-up and restore all of your data,
but you can easily remove e-disk from your drive if you decide it is not what
you need.

Questions can be e-mailed to [e-mail]

Enjoy,

Kevin
________________________________________________________
Kevin Sartain                      [e-mail]

[Archived as /info-mac/cmp/e-disk-12-demo.hqx; 230K]

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Date: Thu, 23 Sep 93 7:52:56 PDT
From: macmod (Info-Mac Moderator)
Subject: [*] maelstrom-131-updater.hqx

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Subject: Maelstrom 1.3 -> 1.3.1 Updater
X-Attachments: :Power Dimension:10778:Maelstrom 1.3->1.3.1 Update.cpt:

Andrew Welch updated his Maelstrom game to v1.31.  I've attached the
updater and his description below.  A full version of v1.31 will be
available, too.

- ------

This update is ONLY for those who have Maelstrom 1.30.  If you have an
earlier version of Maelstrom, download the complete Maelstrom 1.3.1
package.  This update is strongly recommended to those who do have
Maelstrom 1.30, because it is a short download and fixes a few problems
with Maelstrom 1.3, to wit:

     -- Fixed a bug that would cause Maelstrom to display colors
incorrectly if you had a multiple monitor system, and were playing
Maelstrom on a monitor that is not the main monitor.

     -- Maelstrom now works on PowerBook 180c's, 165c's, the Radius Pivot
monitor, and other configurations with non-standard video.

     -- Fixed a bug that caused Maelstrom to crash or freeze the machine
upon quitting in rare cases on certain machines.

     -- Fixed a bug with the TurboFunk mode
_____________________________________________________________________________
Derek Chee ([e-mail])           | This signature is in need of repair,
Office of Analytical Studies         | accepting contractor bids now.
University of California, Irvine     |

[Archived as /info-mac/game/arc/maelstrom-131-updater.hqx; 77K]

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Date: Thu, 23 Sep 93 7:53:01 PDT
From: macmod (Info-Mac Moderator)
Subject: [*] maelstrom-131.hqx

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Subject: Maelstrom v1.31
X-Attachments: :Power Dimension:10778:Maelstrom 1.3.1.cpt:

Here's a copy of the new version of Andrew Welch's Maelstrom.  His
description and release notes follow.

- -------

Ambrosia Software, Inc. is running a Maelstrom high score contest!  When
you get a high score in Maelstrom 1.3, you'll be given a 10 letter high
score code that'll allow you to enter your score in the contest!  The
contest runs from September 1st, 1993 to December 31st, 1993 so get your
score codes in quick!  You must be using Maelstrom 1.3 to get the high
score code, and should send in just the code (not your score).

The top 50 scores will receive a cool Maelstrom/Ambrosia T-shirt; cash
prizes go out to the top 3 scores as follows: 1st place: $300.  2nd place:
$100.  3rd place: $50.  Send in as many score codes as you like; we'll use
only the best score you submit.  You must be a registered user to enter the
contest, so please include your name/address along with your score code so
we can check our database to make sure you are registered.

The contest is free to enter; details are included in the Maelstrom 1.3
package.

Maelstrom received four mice from MacWorld.  Maelstrom won the Shareware
Industry Award for best new Mac program.  Maelstrom also won the MacUser
1993 Shareware/Entertainment Software award.  Try it, you'll like it!

Combining the best graphics seen on any home platform and addictive game
play, Maelstrom is destined to quickly become one of the best action games
written for the Macintosh.

For a $15.00 shareware fee the you will be transported into the Maelstrom.
Here you will face danger at every turn. Deadly meteors will fly at you
>From all sides, indestructible balls will try and drain your shields and
just when you thought escape was in reach the deadly Shenobi fighter will
take you on, one-on-one. All you have to protect you are your shields, wits
and, hopefully, razor sharp reflexes.

The graphics are rendered in stunning 256 colors. This game will become the
one by which all other Macintosh arcade games, shareware or commercial,
will be judged against.

Maelstrom *requires* a color-capable Macintosh with a 256 color monitor
(any size).  Maelstrom is not crippled in any way.

v1.3.1 changes:

     -- Fixed a bug that would cause Maelstrom to display colors
incorrectly if you had a multiple monitor system, and were playing
Maelstrom on a monitor that is not the main monitor.

     -- Maelstrom now works on PowerBook 180c's, 165c's, the Radius Pivot
monitor, and other configurations with non-standard video.

     -- Fixed a bug that caused Maelstrom to crash or freeze the machine
upon quitting in rare cases on certain machines.

     -- Fixed a bug with the TurboFunk mode
_____________________________________________________________________________
Derek Chee ([e-mail])           | This signature is in need of repair,
Office of Analytical Studies         | accepting contractor bids now.
University of California, Irvine     |

[Archived as /info-mac/game/arc/maelstrom-131.hqx; 1003K]

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Date: Sat, 4 Sep 1993 19:53:25 -0500
From: [e-mail] (Igor Livshits)
Subject: [*] Network Software Installer 1.4

Attached is the latest version of the Network Software Installer.  This
version upgrades your AppleTalk to 58.1 and other things.  The Installer
also knows about the latest av Macs.

Instructions
============
1. Decompress the archive with StuffIt Expander or similar.
2. Copy the folder to any non-start-up drive and launch the Installer.
   If you only have one drive, copy the contents of the folder to a floppy and
   name the floppy Network Software Installer (the same as the folder); then,
   install from this floppy.

I successfully tested this installer from a floppy and from a networked
file server.

Enjoy, igor

[Archived as /info-mac/comm/net/network-software-installer-14.hqx; 489K]

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Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1993 14:31 EST
From: Don't Panic! <[e-mail]>
Subject: [*] PICTshow20.hqx

Dear Programmer,
Please send me a copy of pict_show2.0 if it meats all of the following
conditions:
  is less than $20 shareware (if that much)
  needs no extensions (i.e. Quicktime, which I don't have)
  works on an 8bit color Mac LC with 512 x 384 resolution
  can be decompressed by either binhex 4.0 or Stuffit 3.01, or Zipit 1.1.1
I am hoping to get a GIF reader that will save the GIF file as PICT format for
transfer over to my Superpaint 3.5 software that costs less than
GIFConverter.
Please reply e-mail to address below the "Sincerely"
files greater than 100k should be e-mailed to [e-mail] with a
header telling me what size the file is.
Thank you.
Sincerely,
[e-mail]

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Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1993 00:14:11 -0600
From: [e-mail]
Subject: [*] Update! HyperNotebook v1.0b1

Dear Info-Mac Administrator,

This is the second release of HyperNotebook, version 1.0b1.  I have fixed
some of the more obvious bugs from the last version.  Please replace my
previous upload, version 1.0a2, with this new release.  May I suggest that
you call it something like "hyper-notebook-v1b1" or "hypernotebook-v1.0b1"
in the archive.  I don't think it is necessary to mention the Reference
Stack separately, even though it could be used as a stand-alone
application.

++++++++++++++++  HyperNotebook Abstract ++++++++++++++++

This is the second public release of HyperNotebook and Reference Stack.
They are hypermedia versions of a spiral notebook and a box of
bibliographic notecards, respectively.  They work together, or separately,
and provide not only standard text manipulation and selectable key-field
card sorting, but also button-driven PICT and QuickTime viewing, embedded
pop-up notes, and much more.

This is public domain software.  It uses several of Frederic Rinaldi's
wonderful XCMD's and XFCN's.  (Thank you Mr. Rinaldi.)  Per Mr. Rinaldi's
licensing requirements, this software is not licensed for commercial
distribution, but it may be freely distributed in the public domain on a
not-for-profit basis.

Please send any comments, suggestions or bug reports to me directly via
e-mail.  My e-mail address on Internet is:  [e-mail].

I hope you find this software useful.

Barry Sanders
Multimedia Consultant
National Center for Supercomputing Applications
Urbana, IL

[Archived as /info-mac/text/hyper-notebook-10b1-hc.hqx; 582K]

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Date: Fri Sep 24 00:21:51 EDT 1993
From: [e-mail] (Brian R. Gaeke)
Subject: ">" thingies

> I've noticed that when I read the digests (with Easy View 2.33, but
> of course...) certain words have "greater than" signs concatenated to
> their immediate left. For example, the word "from" comes out ">From".
> Other words (which don't quickly come to mind) do the same thing. Is
> this something you'all do, or is it something Easy View does? Is it
> performed to distinguish regular "From"s from header "from"s?

this is Unix brain damage; it is done to distinguish '<newline>From '
(which starts a new message) from any other from's that may be
at the beginning of a line.

Brian

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Brian Gaeke, The Dimensional Gate Company Internet E-Mail: [e-mail]
Finger my account for my PGP public key.

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Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1993 17:53:00 -0500
From: Colglazier <[e-mail]>
Subject: 14.4k modem from Technology Concepts


> Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1993 11:19:53 -0400 From: [e-mail]
> (Rocky Olive) Subject: 14.4k modem from Technology Concepts
>
> I called MacWareHouse and the $99 LineLink 14.4k modem (from
> Technology Concepts) has a 90-day warranty. They gave me a toll-free
> number for the manufacturer, which is 1-800-477-3473. If anyone
> decides to try this modem out, please let everyone know what you
> think!
>
> Rocky Olive <[e-mail]> [phone] Data General
> Corporation fax: [phone] Apex, NC 27502 USA

I got it and it works just great.  I'm not thrilled with the comm
program bundled with it, but I use ZTerm 0.9 anyway.  Fully comp-
atible with ZTerm.

[e-mail]

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Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1993 02:00:12 -0600 (CDT)
From: [e-mail] (William Richard Jr Russell)
Subject: Additional HD Installation

Hi there. I've got a question for you hardware installers out there.

A local Mac user has decided to sell his Quantum 80MB drive that came
with his Mac, which he bought less than a year ago. I'd like to buy it,
but I can only do it if I can install the drive in my widebody IIfx,
_with_ the existing Quantum 80MB internal drive.

I'd like to somebody to tell me if I'm on the right track w/regard to
what I need to install the drive:

 - I need a mounting bracket to mount the drive in the second floppy
bay, which is currently empty.

 - I need a SCSI cable splitter so that I can attach the new drive to
the SCSI chain.

 - I need a power cable splitter so that I can provide power for the
new drive

 - I need to yank the terminating resistors out of the new drive.

 - I need to change the SCSI ID of the new drive, probably by setting
some jumpers somewhere.

Am I wrong on any of these points? Is there any other hardware or
information that I need to make this work? I'd really appreciate it
someone could point me in the right direction, so I don't waste money
on it.

And, if you happen to know where some of this stuff may be obtained
(like a mail-order company), I'd very much appreciate any contact info
you can give me.

Thank you very much. If there's any interest, I'll be happy to post a
summary to the net.

  *               Rick Russell [e-mail]

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Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1993 12:47 -0400
From: P. T. Withington <[e-mail]>
Subject: Adobe Audition

What is this, which recently started showing up in MacWarhouse ads?  As
best I can make out it is "Limited Editions of Photoshop and Premiere".
What are the limits?  Is there an upgrade path to the real thing?

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Date: 23 Sep 1993 07:48:59 -0500 (CDT)
From: "Dwight Lemke @ Wisconsin Oshkosh" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Airport Security & Disks(A)

>From what I've been able to read, the PowerBook itself is unaffected
by the x-rays.  But, to minimize any potential damage, be careful to
put your PB in the center of the conveyor so that it is not near any
magnets which may be part of the innards of the beast.

As for floppies, DON'T let them be x-rayed.  Either get one of those lead
foil bags used for film or carry them on your person.  Again from what I've
been able to read repeated exposure to x-rays will degrade the floppies.
Someone from one of the Mac rags did a test to confirm this.

-Dwight

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Date: Fri Sep 24 00:21:48 EDT 1993
From: [e-mail] (Brian R. Gaeke)
Subject: A site where gzip and a compiler are [A]

> About 3 months ago, I asked where I could find a C compiler for UNIX. I
> was led to an ftp site which I now cannot remember. Could someone once
> again lead me to the ftp site where gzip and (I forgot the name) a C
> compiler for UNIX?

try aeneas.mit.edu in /pub/gnu.

Brian

--
Brian Gaeke, The Dimensional Gate Company Internet E-Mail: [e-mail]
Finger my account for my PGP public key.

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Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1993 14:53:37 -0600
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Attendance program wanted

A teacher friend has asked for help in locating an attendance program that
handles hourly attendance including lates. Suggestions can be sent directly
to [e-mail]    Thanks in advance for the help.

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Date: 23 Sep 1993 09:19:08 +0000 (U)
From: "Dees, Ted E." <[e-mail]>
Subject: CD-ROM Drive Questions... (R)

B.C. Ling, in #189, asked:

>1. Does anyone have any recommendations on low-cost CD-ROM drives (less than
>   $500) and/or bundles?

and

>4. A specific question - comments on the MacWarehouse CD-ROM drives: any
>   experiences on these? In particular, the one currently listed at $299.


I just bought the MacWarehouse CD-ROM.  It has a double-speed NEC drive
mechanism with 300 kbps transfer rate, which seems to put it firmly in the
middle of the pack of current double-speed drives at a very competitive
price.
I've had it for about a week now and it seems to work fine -- but I have no
other, more expensive drive to compare it to.  No CDs are bundled with it but
it does include the CD-ROM tool kit diskette.  I finally decided to buy it
after reading that, like other electronic products, we can expect CD-ROM
prices
to continue to drop and capabilities to continue to improve and that next
year's models will blow this year's out of the water -- so if you want a drive
now, buy cheap (but smart!).

BTW, I also bought the $40 Koss speakers.  Note that even though they do run
off wall power -- this requires an ac converter that is NOT included and NOT
mentioned in the ad.  Otherwise, they need two C cells each.

Ted Dees ([e-mail])

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Date: Thu, 23 Sep 93 02:30:59 CST
From: [e-mail] (Yen-Ni Huan)
Subject: Chinese version of System 7

On Date: Fri, 17 Sep 93 16:50:24 PDT
[e-mail] (Howard Hui) wrote:

>  I'd like to know where I can get a Chinese version of System 7?
> Is it something that I can get from the net or applelink or I have to pay
> for it.


  I don't think you can get a legal Chinese version of System 7 on a FTP
server.

  Chinese version is quite a little bit different from other System 7 because
the large amout of characters set, say at least more than 15 thousands
Chinese characters are needed in a typical Chinese OS, rather than 26
basic characters for English.

My suggestion:
  Contact to the Apple dealer in Taiwan and pay for it, if you really need
  it.
Beware that a Chinese System 7 may take up HD space from about 20MB
to more than 100 MB, depend on WHAT and HOW MANY types of Chinese
font you are going to install.

Hsufeng Ko
[e-mail]


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Date: Thu, 23 Sep 93 13:57:25 CDT
From: [e-mail] (Pete Jemian)
Subject: Choosing an EtherNet card for Mac Classic and an LC

Passing this question out to the info-mac community:
What is the best ethernet card(s) to use on a Mac Classic and an LC.
Is it (are they) made by Asante'?  BTW, a requirement is that
the cards *must* have 10BASE-T connectors.

Address your replies to:
[e-mail]
(Dayo Sowunmi - Systems Support, Schlumberger GeoQuest, Nigeria)

TIA y'all.   ---Pete

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Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1993 13:11:04 -0500
From: [e-mail] (Graeme Forbes)
Subject: Clock speeds

Here's another for Brian Hughes to keep in his head. The Centrises gave
been renamed Quadras and the new Quadra 650 has a 33MHz processor. I
believe Apple also reduced the price - if I recall correctly, the list is
$2300.

I can't believe that I paid close to $5000 only a few years ago for a IIcx.

Graeme Forbes

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Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1993 22:29:08 -0700 (PDT)
From: Geoff Duncan <[e-mail]>
Subject: Computer Underground Digest

Didn't you know about these guys? They've been around forever. Definitely
someone to put on our list. Grab an issue of you get the chance--not
half bad.

geoff

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Date: Wed, 22 Sep 93 17:41:07 CDT
From: Akira <[e-mail]>
Subject: custom colors

My boss has a few microscope captured in tiff form in 24-bit color.  He
want to save them in 8 bit with a custom color table for each image.  I
told him that PS will do the job, but he didn't like the way that PS was
choosing the sample.  IS there a filter or other SW, or trick that he can
use to change the way an image is sampled, and save it in 8-bit color as
a tiff file?

Akira
Lister Hill Medical Library
Univ. of Al. - Birmingham

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Date: Thu, 23 Sep 93 10:07:07 MEZ
From: "Dr. Stefan P. Mueller"
<[e-mail]>
Subject: Editing EPS files in FreeHand [Q]

Recently it was mentioned in Info-Mac that Aldus Free Hand might me able
to edit EPS files rather than just import and print them. As much as
this may worry some distributors of prorietary files, we would welcome
this feature, we would buy Free Hand immediately if this were true.
Unfortunately, I have not been able to get a confirmation from Aldus
Germany (calling them is a very unpleasant experience! After cruising
their voice mail system and being put on hold forever each time I
called, I was never able to reach anyone competent enough to confirm or
deny).

Does anybody on the net have definitive information whether Free Hand
can _edit_ EPF files? In which version was this feature introduced?

Thank you very much

Stefan

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Date: Thu, 23 Sep 93 15:47:07 PDT
From: [e-mail] (Herb Kroemer)
Subject: Eudora vs. LeeMail

I wonder whether anybody has experience with _both_ Eudora and the latest
version (2.0) of LeeMail, and could give a comparative assessment of both,
based on actual experience.

Thanks in advance

Herb Kroemer

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Date: 23 Sep 1993 16:19:17 -0500 (CDT)
From: [e-mail]
Subject: faq

I don't know where I can find faq and the previous lists of info-mac digest.
I don't have access to usenet. I would appreciate any help.
Thnak you

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Date: Fri Sep 24 00:21:42 EDT 1993
From: [e-mail] (Brian R. Gaeke)
Subject: gcc for Mac? [R]

> In the /mac/tools directory at ftp.apple.com, there's a directory called
> /gcc. It appears to contain the famous compiler, but the documentation
> doesn't say anything about what it runs under. Does anybody know whether
> it's a Mac version (which would strike me as odd, considering how the GNU
> folks feel about Apple), or if it's supposed to be used under A/UX, or
> what?

As far as I know, there's one GCC for Mac that runs under MacOS, under
MPW, and there's one that runs under A/UX, but no standalone.

Brian

--
Brian Gaeke, The Dimensional Gate Company Internet E-Mail: [e-mail]
Finger my account for my PGP public key.

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 23 Sep 93 08:50:37 PDT
From: [e-mail] (Adam C. Engst)
Subject: GEnie & BinHex

Interesting - I wish I'd heard about this problem when I was writing
the section on email to and from GEnie for the book...

In Regards to your letter <[e-mail]>:
> I DO realize that this probably is NOT the right forum for this, but I'm
stuck
> and don't know whom else to turn to...

I'm sure others will have better ideas, but here's what I would do.

> The situation is as follows: my father has an account on GEnie and I send
him
> binhexed MS Word documents (over the Internet) which he gets just fine.
BUT,
> when he tries to send me a binhexed file it always arrives screwed up (i.e.,
I
> can't do ANYTHING with it).  The apparent "explanation" for this is that
> binhex files contain asterisks (*) which GEnie recognizes as a command if it
> appears as the first character of a line (which happens randomly).
>
> So, the obvious questions is: is anyone out there in net-land sending binhex
> files from home via GEnie and if so, how are you doing it?

Use any program to search for a return and replace with a return and
a specific character that you agree on, such as M. That will prefix
all lines with an M, which is presumably an OK character. Then, on
your end, simply search for return-M and replace with return.

Of course, this would all be easiest in Nisus, where you can specify
the positions of characters (such as line start or paragraph start)
and where you can write a macro to do it automatically,
but you all expected me to say that anyway. It will work fine in any
program that can find a return.

After he adds the initial character to _every_ line, it's not a valid
BinHex file again until you strip them off. But it should work fine...

cheers ... -Adam

--
Adam C. Engst, TidBITS Editor -- [e-mail] -- [e-mail]

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1993 10:56:46 +0000
From: Graham Allsopp <[e-mail]>
Subject: Ghost Mouse problem

Great to see the recent archives listings back !

>Ghost Mouse 1.0 is a simple INIT; drop it in your system folder and restart
>your Macintosh. It will cause your mouse to disappear as soon as you stop
>moving it.

Unfortunately, Ghost Mouse, listed in IM187, doesn't work for me. I've put
it in the Extensions Folder, re-started, but my mouse still sits there on
its mouse mat, and I can still see it !!  ;)

Perhaps I've just got the wrong end of the stick (Vic) !

Graham

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1993 17:39:07 -0500
From: Bienvenu Sidney J <[e-mail]>
Subject: Help!  My desktop is black & white!

Some time ago I used ResEdit to experiment with large desktop patterns.  In my
naivety I attempted to change the pattern by way of the General Controls
panel.
Big mistake.  Now I'm stuck with two choices of color for my desktop
patterns:
black and white.  Reinstalling the system twice (the latter upgrade from 7.0.1
to 7.1) did not correct the problem.

Is there anything in the archives that will correct this? At the moment I
don'thave any means of readilly downloading stuff from my account onto my Mac,
so a
ResEdit hack would be preferable.

In the meantime, does anyone recommend a shareware desktop pattern CP?

Many thanx                                      -- Jay Bienvenu
                           [e-mail]

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 22 Sep 93 17:32:17 EST
From: "Kirke B. Lawton" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Help needed - Hard drive problem?

I need help.  I have been hit with a string of problems that I can't
diagnose.  I'm hoping that if I list some of the symptoms and things I
have already tried, someone will be able to point me in the right
direction for a fix.

Environment:  Accelerated SE (Mobius '030), System 7.0.1*, using
Connectix Compact Virtual.

Problems:  the first problem I noticed was that the Vantage DA would
no longer open (Error -31 or -32 if I recall correctly).

Then my system froze every time I tried to take a new copy of the DA
from it's suitcase.

Then the system froze in the middle of rebuilding the desktop.

Norton Disk Doctor found was a few bad bundle bits
(including Vantage) and something about files sharing the same space
(I think that was it, but I should have written it down).

I was still unable to rebuild the desktop and I was starting to lose
document icons, so I removed my system and installed System 7.0.

Disinfectant and GateKeeper found no problems on the virus front.

After installing the new system a number of my cp's no longer would
open.  (This could have been true before the new system was installed,
but they were working a few hours before at least).  I copied in fresh
ones and they work fine now.

Somewhere along the line AOL got damaged so that some of the OK
buttons were missing and it crashed repeatedly.

Now my system freezes almost regularly when I open new applications.

I have to believe these problems are related somehow. Perhaps they are
all a result of the disk problem initially, but since then I have
reinstalled the system and rebuilt the desktop.  Any insight anyone
could offer would be appreciated.  Specifically, what caused it, and
what should I do to make the best of the current situation.

Thanks,
Kirke Lawton
[e-mail]
[e-mail]

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 23 Sep 93 07:49:28 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: How to read non-Mac/IBM floppy?

Okay, I figured that since the Superdrive can read an IBM disk as well as a
Mac disk, it can be made to read almost anything.  Problem is, I don't have
the slightest clue how to make it happen, and I'm not much of a programmer.
But what I'd like to do is read the disk format that my Korg T-2 synthesizer
writes, and get the data into some format I can look at (and play around with)
on my Mac.  It's a 3.5" high density floppy.  Can anyone help?  Maybe a
project
for someone who likes both Macs and music, since a number of synths now use
3.5" floppies.  RSVP with any ideas, and we'll chat offline.  --bmunday

------------------------------

Date: 23 Sep 93 14:17:36 -0500
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Internet Intro on Hypercard

     I do not have access to ftp, is it possible to 'send me a copy' of the
     "Big Dummy's Guide to the Internet" through email?

     Thanks,
     Cynthia

     [e-mail]

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1993 18:28:36 -0500
From: [e-mail] (Graeme Forbes)
Subject: Invalid Index Key (Q)

MacCheck reports a problem on an external hard disk, "invalid index key 1,
744" (with the space). Running MacTools fixed *a* problem (file thread
pointing to no file) but MacCheck still reports the invalid index key.

My question, you guessed it, is: what is an index key and should I care
that I have an invalid one?

Thanks for any advice.

Graeme Forbes

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1993 15:19 PDT
From: Magic <[e-mail]>
Subject: LineLink 14.4e Modem!

  I just received MY LineLink 144e from MacWherehouse... Indeed, it is a
  plain,
basic modem... but for $99 bucks, how can you go wrong (Isn't that what
they're
saying about the Newton?)...

  In fact... that's what I'm using right now... what a change from 2400!

  Call up and support low-priced modems!

-Matt

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1993 08:18:55 -0700 (PDT)
From: Michael Cohen <[e-mail]>
Subject: Mac distribution (Q)

Does anyone out there know
a) what percentage of Mac owners have 9" vs. 13/14" or larger screens?
b) the same information in terms of Macs in schools?
c) how one would acquire the above information (e.g., sites to examine,
people to see/mail/call)?

Inquiring minds want to...you know...know!

--Michael E. Cohen (aka [e-mail])

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1993 22:05:31 PDT
From: Kee Nethery <[e-mail]>
Subject: MacWorld E-mail (A)

>Anyone know of an E-mail address for MacWorld magazine?
>Subscription department is preferred.

[e-mail]

Just ask them to route your message to subscriptions. MacWorld1 is a group
account.

[e-mail]

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1993 15:30:23 +0000
From: [e-mail] (Henry Rzepa) (Henry Rzepa)
Subject: MPEG and Quicktime Interconversion

I know how to read and convert MPEG type movies to QT (Sparkle
amongst others), but do any programs exist for the reverse?


Dr Henry Rzepa, Dept. Chemistry, Imperial College, LONDON SW7 2AY;
[e-mail] via Eudora 1.4, Tel:[phone], Fax:[phone].


------------------------------

Date: Wed, 22 Sep 93 20:59:19 -0400
From: "Terry M. Stader  KA8SCP" <[e-mail]>
Subject: MS Word 4.0x and 040 machines

Those of you that wish to remain with the 4.0x version of Microsoft
Word should call Microsoft Tech Support. They sent me overnight the
Quadra version of the software FREE!

Subsequently I have purchased the 5.1a upgrade... it is slower,
prettier desktop and a couple of handty tools. Not sure it is worth the
$129 though! I'll reserve judgement fro now.


Terry M. Stader, KA8SCP, America Online (AOL) Ham Radio Club Host
Macintosh Amateur Radio Software List Maintainer
Internet: [e-mail] or [e-mail]
Packet:   KA8SCP@WA1PHY.#EMA.MA.USA.NOAM

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1993 09:40:03 PDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: need to extract sounds from HyperCard to sys7...

Hi, folks!

    I used to have a nice little utility that could copy sound resources
>From a Hypercard stack into a system 7 sound file, but it was lost during a
recent drive crash and I no longer remember what it was called.

    Can any of you wonderful Mac'ers out there point me to the right place
to find this thing?

'til next we type
HAVE FUN!!      --      Jesse

------------------------------

Date: Fri Sep 24 00:21:44 EDT 1993
From: [e-mail] (Brian R. Gaeke)
Subject: New developer fee$ [ack!]

> Did anyone else happen to notice the small article on p 115 of the 9/20
> MacWeek?? It says Apple is raising the price of their Partner program
> >From $600 to $1500 a year! On top of that, they are offering a PIE Partners
> Program for $2850 a year!
>
> Quick math shows that being a small commercial developer for Apple with
> both Mac and Newton products will set you back a whopping $4350 a year!
> You still, of course, have to pay for hardware, software, etc.
>
> Is anyone else besides me outraged at these prices? I guess Apple really
> doesn't care about the small developer any more. If Apple is going to
> succeed it is going to need lots of products done by small developers. Big
> developers tend to move too slow and only concentrate on the "big ticket"
> mass market products.

Yup, Apple screws the little guy for the nth time. Maybe this is why they
can't seem to get out of their little slide... they insist on a pint
of blood for every little bit of help they give you beyond ResEditing
files and entering CODE resources by hand.

As for the PIE partners program, jeez... when will they figure out that
the country is IN A RECESSION, AND PEOPLE CAN'T AFFORD THIS STUFF!
what to do...

void main(void)
{
for (;;) { SysBeep(1); }
}

Brian

--
Brian Gaeke, The Dimensional Gate Company Internet E-Mail: [e-mail]
Finger my account for my PGP public key.

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 23 Sep 93 08:32:19 EDT
From: Gene Mayro <[e-mail]>
Subject: Nissus -> WP 5.1

I know that Microsoft Word 5.1 can read MSDOS WordPerfect 5.1 files, can
Nisus? What translations can Nisus do?

- Gene Mayro ([e-mail])

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1993 16:51:12 -0500
From: [e-mail] (John VanDyk)
Subject: No new file postings. Please rescind.

I must raise my voice in protest with the throng: please restore the [*]
list to the digest.

I and others like me have little enough time as it is; and connecting to
sumex or other sites can be a great annoyance if not impossible. For me the
new files were just as important as the digest.

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1993 14:57:41 -0500 (CDT)
From: Oliver P. Soell <[e-mail]>
Subject: NSI 1.4 and GeoPort

Installing almost anything into my system file (on a Q840) results in a
crash.
I first thought that it was an Fkey that I have (tsv 4.0.2) and that was
incompatible with the GeoPort software. So I got rid of that, and all was
fine.
The Apple event manager (or whatever) part of Applescript (included with the
av
machines) also seems to be a bit strange, because things were better after
its removal. Now, NSI 1.4 crashes the system in the same fashion that tsv
did.

The crash itself isn't an extension conflict, because it crashes before any
ex-
tensions load up (save the apple event manager, if present), and I use Now's
Startup Manager, so their icons would show up. Every time, Macsbug drops me in
at the same address, which is like 'DataPubsManager' in the ROM. (I doubted
that the existence of an fkey (one that I love, too) could possibly crash a
system, but I seemed to have thought wrong..)

And yes, I can just exit to shell and the system loads up without any more
extensions after I get kicked into macsbug.

Any other 840/GeoPort/NSI 1.4 users out there that have done this
successfully?
And I've reinstalled the sys a few times, if you're wondering.

thanks bunches

Oliver Soell
Rice University
[e-mail]

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1993 19:31:17 +0200 (MET DST)
From: Achim Voermanek <[e-mail]>
Subject: Pegasus - A shareware mail-prg. for the Mac?

Hi,

does anybody know a mail-program for the macintosh called Pegasus?
Somebody told me that it is a shareware-programm. Maybe there is even
a ftp-site where I can get it....
Any suggestions?

Thank you in advance


Achim Voermanek

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 23 Sep 93 16:26:39 EDT
From: [e-mail] (J GAGNE)
Subject: PRAM

I lose sometime the ethernet selection in the control
panel on MacLc in a classroom (system 6.0.7) the selection come
back to Localtalk.

I search a manner for save the PRAM's content on disk, for restoring
that content on PRAM while the Mac restart.

How to register to Info-Mac ?

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 23 Sep 93 10:38:00 EST
From: [e-mail] (BRUCE HUMPHREY)
Subject: Problems downloading from info-mac

Gang,

Of course this is probably a FAQ, but I'll say it anyway...

I've downloaded a couple of files from Info-mac which refuse to
decompress with any standard program (cp pro, unstuffit, etc.).  They
claim to be sit files, but even the latest version of unstuffit
refuses to recognize the format.  So they sit...oops, I wasn't
intending to be punny.  Anyway, if these require a commercial version
of stuffit, why should anyone post them to the archives when no one
else can open them?

I've also had problems ftping several files, either they have a
checksum error, some character code (C5$C!S, or some such), or refuse
to download at all.  Has anyone else experienced these?

Any and all assistance is greatly appreciated...

Bruce
[e-mail]

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1993 22:27:44 -0500
From: [e-mail] (Ken Linger)
Subject: Replacement SE/30 ROMs

Several people have told me through recent postings that it is possible
to replace the SE/30 ROMs (looks like a SIMM next to the 8 SIMM slots)
with either the SI or II FX ROMs.  Is this indeed possible?  Where is a
good place to look and what would be a reasonable price?

I called some places in MacUser (from the back) and they either didn't
carry them or wanted $699 for them.

To those who have replaced their SE/30 ROMs with anything but SE/30
ROMs:  what benefits did you receive?  Have there been any drawbacks?
How did you get them (off a dead Mac XY, found them in the street,
mailorder, etc.) and what did you pay?

Thanks,

Ken Linger
[e-mail]

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1993 16:24:58 -0700 (PDT)
From: "DAVID R. ANDERSON" <[e-mail]>
Subject: request for info about printers

My friend is a high school teacher who needs
a printer for preparing school yearbook, etc.

She is considering a GCC BLP Elite, HP 4ML, QMS PS10.
She tells me that the printers have the same printing
speed (page per minute) and resolution. She would
appreciate any comments about speed of imaging or
dependability.

Thank you in advance.

Dave Anderson
[e-mail]

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1993 12:56:27 CHT
From: [e-mail] (Patricio Mason)
Subject: Right FPU for LC II (Q)

Dear netters,

Can a regular (square) 68882 math co-processor be plugged directly into an
LC II?  If not, what kind should I get, and exactly where does it go?
Installation hints and precautions also welcome.

Thanks in advance.


Patricio Mason
[e-mail]
Santiago, Chile

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1993 10:27:00 +0000
From: "John (J.A.) Oldfield" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Schematics for Mac (A)

A couple of years ago I asked about Mac schematics and some kind
netter told me about an ad he'd seen in a magazine.

There is a company in Wyoming that makes a business of figuring out
scematics for all kinds of things and publishing them.  Among
their other items, they have drawn scematics for several Macs.

  Bomarc Services
  Box 1113
  Casper, Wyoming 82602
  USA
  [phone]

  Hours: 9-2 & 3-6 M-F  11-2 Sat MST

I ordered two schematics, a Mac II and a IIcx.  I found them well
drawn and mostly accurate.  I didn't see one undocumented VIA pin
on the Mac II schematic so they can miss some things.

Two warnings:
 1. They print their schematics on coloured paper with a large
    gray watermark in the center to prevent photocopying and
    sharing of the prints.  Their brochure explains in colourful
    language why they feel they must do this!
 2. They seem to have trouble with any other payment than a U.S.
    drawn cheque.  I first sent them a Postal Money Order made
    out in US funds and they sent it back with complaints about
    trying to cash it.  I finally gave up and had a relative in
    the states mail my order in with a cheque from his US bank!

Good luck, John Oldfield ([e-mail])

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1993 12:05:36 -0700 (PDT)
From: Michael Gamon <[e-mail]>
Subject: shareware problem under system 7.1

Hi there!
I had some problem with shareware I downloaded to my Powerbook: Everything
went well until I tried to start the applications. Error message: "not
enough memory to open..." - although only the Finder was running at that
time. The same problem occurred with CompactPro, StuffIt, and a
disinfectant32.sea file.

Do you have any idea whether this is a problem with system 7.1? What can I
do to resolve it? Or who could I contact?

Thanks a lot!!!!
Michael Gamon
[e-mail]

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1993 11:28:44 -0500 (CDT)
From: "F. J. Van Wetering" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Shutdown message on Centris

I keep getting a dialog box on my Centris 660 AV asking me if I am sure I
want to shut down now...  This can be repeatedly displayed by pressing the
'apple' key on the keyboard  OR  by pressing the 'Option' key on the
keyboard OR  by pressing the 'Control' key on the keyboard.

Does anyone have any clue as to what the heck is going on here?

F. J.  Van Wetering, Ph.D.     INTERNET: [e-mail]


------------------------------

Date: 23 Sep 1993 21:05:22 -0400
From: [e-mail] (Ben Hellstrom)
Subject: Start up icon mess

[e-mail] writes:

>Jonathan Kurtis wrote:

>>When I start up my mac, I get 2 rows of startup icons (extentions, control
>>pannels etc.) which unfortunately overlap, resulting in a mess. They all
>>work properly, they just look terrible. Is there a fix for this. Is there a
>>manager which lets you set the startup order? thanks.

>Yes, I used to use something called iconwrap.  It was at Sumex.  Try
>info-mac/gui somewhere....

>martin
>3D Centre, University of Queensland, Australia

I also had the same miserable problem and tried iconwrap.  It didn't
do a whole lot of good.  Apparantly, each icon's author write the code
to display the icon and many don't follow Apple's standards.

The "Startup Manager" that is part of the "Now Utilities" bundle
does a super job at this.  It also gives control over the order of
extension execution without forcing you to play games (..insert spaces
or control chars at the beginning of extension names..)

It costs $$$.  I got it bundled with SAM for $80? from Tiger S/W.

Ben Hellstrom                   [e-mail]

------------------------------

Date: 23 Sep 1993 07:56:24 -0500 (CDT)
From: "Dwight Lemke @ Wisconsin Oshkosh" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Start up icon mess(A)

Conflict Catcher from Cassidy & Greene does an even better job of
wrapping icons than IconWrap.  There is a demo version of it in
the archives.

-Dwight

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 23 Sep 93 19:21:58 PDT
From: [e-mail] (John Thoo)
Subject: Start up icon mess (Q)


On 20 Sep 1993 [e-mail]
(Martin Stoermer) wrote:
> Jonathan Kurtis wrote:
>
> >When I start up my mac, I get 2 rows of startup icons (extentions, control
> >pannels etc.) which unfortunately overlap, resulting in a mess. They all
> >work properly, they just look terrible. Is there a fix for this. Is there a
> >manager which lets you set the startup order? thanks.
>
> Yes, I used to use something called iconwrap.  It was at Sumex.  Try
> info-mac/gui somewhere....

I'm just loaded IconWrap and the problem I'm having is that instead of
_stacking_ startup icons onto a second row, it _pastes_ them over ones
already displayed.  My question is, Anyone have any ideas on how to
correct this?  Thanks.

--John.
J. B. THOO, Math Dept, Univ of California, Davis <[e-mail]>

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 23 Sep 93 12:12:00 CST
From: "Z. Sun" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Strange happ to my boot partition (Q)

Greetings,

This only started a few days ago: the boot partition of my 4-partition
HD does not show up on the "GetFile" ("Open") and "PutFile" ("Save")
dialog any more. It's like this: when I want to open a file, all the other
3 partitions are listed in the dialog box (when click on the "desktop"
button). However, neither the boot partion column nor the files on that
partition are listed. It looks like I have only 3 volumes, instead of 4.

Configuration: System 7.1, a few Extensions and Cdevs. But this still
happens even I disable all the extensions (Shift-Boot).

I did try PowerLock last week on this machine (IIci). Then I decide that
it's not for me - If this has anything to do with PowerLock at all.

Any help is appreciated.

PS. Another problem: there seems to be a conflict between one of the
extensions and the AppleMenuItems folder. When I turn off all extensions,
all Apple Menu Items worked just fine. But when I leave the extensions
on, THE FOURTH ITEM under the Apple Menu would not work. More specifically,
the item that takes the 4th slot will not be activated; instead, if a file
is selected on the Finder, attempt to activate the 4th item under Apple
would call up the Get Info window of the selectd file.

Could anybody give a hint on which extension may be doing the trick?

Thanks a million!

Jack

------------------------------

Date: 22 Sep 1993 12:15:54 -0500
From: "Scott Bresnahan" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Sys 7.1 (LCIII freeze) (A)-

    Sys 7.1 (LCIII freeze) (A)

    Many crashes and performance problems that have been popping up
on the
    most recent Macs are caused not by the new hardware, but by that
bad
    thing called "System 7.1"--yuck!  Anyway, Apple has released the
    "Hardware System Update 2.0", currently located at ftp.apple.com
in
    the /dts/mac/sys.soft/7.1.hardware.update folder.  Run this baby
on
    your System 7.1  Macintosh for some important fixes.  This fix is
for
    7.1 users only

    Our LCIII was crashing, oh...about every two minutes before the
update
    "increased system reliability".  This is a _must_ do for 7.1
users.

    --Scott Bresnahan
      Software Engineer, TERC

------------------------------

Date: 22 Sep 1993 13:07:03 -0600 (CST)
From: David Coons <[e-mail]>
Subject: tn3270 2.3d26 "Print Screen..." won't

I mailed this to [e-mail] on 7/1 and 9/1 but haven't
received a response.  Would anyone here have the answer?

A faculty member here has a Mac IIsi, System 7.0.1, and a LaserWriter
Select 310 printer, and uses tn3270 to access our IBM mainframe for
Profs mail.  When he selects "Print Screen...", the printout contains
no ASCII text, but only graphics characters.  We've tried reinstalling
the application with the same results.  Other applications can print
normally so the driver must be okay.  Will a Print Screen work on a LW
Select (i.e., QuickDraw) printer?

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1993 10:26:21 +0100
From: [e-mail] (John Williams)
Subject: Translating the Symbol font from Macs to PC's (Q)

    We have been doing quite a bit of translation between Macs=
 and PCs
recently, assembling the abstracts of an international congress.=
  For
reasons which I won't go into, a decision was made to assemble the=
 whole
thing on a PC running WordPerfect.  By and large, translations from
MacWrite or Word using MacLink went well, but we indentified the=
 following
problem:
    Texts containing letters typed using the Symbol character=
 set
didn't translate properly.  This is annoying for certain greek letters,
such as alpha or gamma, which don't exist in the common Mac fonts=
 such as
Helvetica or Times (although others, such as beta, do).
    This is not just a shortcoming of MacLink. We were able to=
 find a
co-operative colleague who uses WordPerfect 2.0 on a Mac, so we typed=
 a
short text and asked WP 2.0 to write a PC file (for version 5.1).=
  It
mangled the greek letters when we checked it on the PC, and when=
 we tried
to read the converted file back into WP 2.0 on the Mac, we got garbage
where we were expecting greek letters, so it very much looks as if=
 the
translation step was faulty.
    I admit that I haven't been able to try the same experiment=
 using
Word on the Mac and Word on a PC.  Anyone curious enough to try?=
  And does
anyone have a fix or a suggestion?



John Williams

INRA Station de Recherches Avicoles, Centre de Recherches de Tours,=
 37380
Nouzilly, France

T=E9l (33) 47 42 78 47    Fax/t=E9l=E9copie (33) 47 42 77 78

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1993 11:35:06 -0400
From: [e-mail]
Subject: video disc drivers

 ---------------------------Original message----------------------------
Hi, I need the names and addresses of companies that have video disc drivers
 forHyper Card.  Can somebody help me.  I would appreciate if you can send me
 email


Thank you.

------------------------------


Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1993 10:07:49 +0100
To: [e-mail]
From: [e-mail] (John Williams)
Subject: [*] Eudora v1.4
Resent-To: info-mac@sumex
Resent-Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1993 10:09:33 PDT
Resent-From: Backup Moderator <[e-mail]>

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    Here is the latest version of Steve Dorner's e-mail program for the
Mac.  Here's what he says about it in one of the attached files:

GENERAL STUFF

Eudora is an Internet-compatible mailer for Macintoshes. It can be used with
MacTCP, the Communications Toolbox, or any of the UUCP implementations for
the Mac. Eudora is free.


TRANSLITERATION IN EUDORA

Eudora has a primitive transliteration facility. It can replace any one 8
bit character with any other 8-bit character, when sending mail, receiving
mail, or displaying a message. This is primarily of interest to people who
communicate in languages other than English; if you don't, read no further.

Here's the bottom line. Put the EudoraTables document in your Preferences
folder (system folder, for you 6'ers). Start Eudora. Open a message from
your in box. Hold down the shift key, and press on the blank popup in the
icon bar. Choose the appropriate country code from the menu. Now, choose
New... from the Message menu. Again, hold down the shift key and choose the
appropriate country code from the menu. All done.

EUDORA-INFO

Please send mail to [e-mail] to get the latest information
about Eudora, including lists of files currently available on the ftp site.
Someday, you may even be able to get Eudora files this way; but not yet.


FUTURE PLANS

Eudora version 2.0 will have support for MIME (the new internet standard
that allows for pictures, sound, rich text, national character sets and file
transfer in mail, all in a standard way), AppleEvents (so that Eudora can be
used by other programs who want to send mail), and possibly a remote mailbox
protocol like IMAP or PCMail. Eudora 2.0 will be able to use pattern
matching and a rules database for automated sorting, filing, and handling of
mail. I'll also be keeping an eye on OCE developments.


.....BUT version 1.4 already supports MIME!

    International users who want the full story (there are French and
Swedish versions of Eudora) should ftp to ftp.cso.uiuc.edu and look around
the Eudora directory where you wil find a sub-directory called 'intl'
 (no apostrophes).

[Archived as /info-mac/comm/net/eudora-14.hqx; 335K]

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